ok i've had three elders from other halls come encourage me to come back ( been disfellowshiped for year and a half now), but none of the elders in my home congregation would even look at me when i vist.
i asked my old p.o can he encourage me and he said i won't do that, when three other elders encouraged me to come back.. .
my question is was my p.o right are was he just being a jerk..
When I was a JW, a friend of mine was put on ice but I continued to visit him. The elder squat team told me to stop associating with him.
I pointed out that they still called on him. They informed me that only the elders were strong enough in the truth to call on the miscreant, without suffering contamination.
Obviously the elders in your spiritual paradise are not strong enough or you are one very wicked dude. Scary stuff eh!
i remember asking this question to couple of elders who came to visit me.
i had pointed out their failed prophecies, and the fact that they were constantly making corrections in their publications, and how this proved god wasn't really behind it.. they went into the usual song and dance about how the gb were simply imperfect men, and never claimed to be infallible.
i reminded them that the bible writers were also imperfect men, and yet the bible supposedly was infallible.
Essan
It's nonsense. Sleight of hand. BS.
That about sums it up.
DEFENITIONS OF Inspired, spirit directed:
Led along by holy spirit
Guided by god
To affect, guide, or arouse by divine influence.
To fill with livening or exalting emotion
To stimulate to action
To affect or touch; to breathe life into
To cause, guide, communicate, or motivate as by divine or supernatural influence
To prompt, or cause to be written or said, by influence
To to inspire a rumor.
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No-one really has a clue what these terms mean. It is all a trick of the mind, an attempt to produce reality out of something less real than thin air.
To those capable of such magic, I salute you.
i`m taking this veiwpoint from a jw/christian observation, and my questions are:.
if god, jehovah, allah,or whoever else you may like to call him,truly had the worlds " human" interests at heart,why would he only deal with a small minority of humans,over centuries of time ignoring the vast majority of the worlds population.. why would he send a number of prophets over centuries of time,to specifically set matters straight as to how they should worship him,then when it comes down to jesus time ,their are numerous sects,and no real direction from god as to how they should worship him.it`s all left up to faith,which is radically different from the "old testament"veiw.. why didn`t he give instructions /guidance to the rest of mankind,(who would have been in the millions by now)to give them some hope of salvation?
obviously he didn`t give any thought to them.. 2000 years on from their, the christian gospel is mainly only preached in western civilizations,it is not widely preached in india,pakistan,the uae,mainland china,indonesia,afghanistan,or many other large populated areas.. so my question is.... does god really "love the world so much that he gave his only begotten son" .
The Bible is a big book - 66 books in fact. You need to pick out the right bits and interpret them in a way that answers your questions.
Then ask Jesus to come into your life.
Now is that too much to ask?
if you don't believe me, watch my latest video debunking atheism!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjs9yblgupq.
cheers!.
Beks, belittling you is like beating a one legged man in an ass-kicking contest......
Burns - I vote your comment to Beks, on page one, as the wittiest and most humours retort I have read in a while.
I see your sword has not gone rusty.
what was it that first got you thinking that the society was wrong in how they interpret the bible?.
for me personally, it was the way they always downgrade jesus to be an angel and are promoting the governing body in his place.. also when the society taught that jesus was abaddon/apollyon the fallen angel in revelation..
I must have missed something.
Is there a right way to interpret the bible?
my thread here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/197200/5/atheists-do-you-ever-talk-to-god has taken a decidedly new twist.
one that has made me think it prudent to discuss a related matter.. would the world be a better place if all atheism was gone?
would it be a better place if all religion were gone?
Would the world be a better place without Atheism/Religious-ism?
Western culture is based on illusion. We have created an artificial world in place of nature which we have embraced as if it were real.
Religion is just one of many illusions that humans seem to depend on in order to give their lives meaning. On the whole, animals are actually more rational.
most of us here know what a hypocritical, backstabbing bunch of gossips many of the jw's tend to be.
far too often, a jw wont tell you to your face what's eating them, but they'll sure tell others.
when i started waking up (the second time around) this made me very paranoid.
A heartless poster on this very forum suggested that I was not a real gladiator, just a deluded nutter.
http://haha.nu/files/uploads/2009/forgiveness/forgiveness.jpg.
It takes faith to see the unseen Tammy
pls, wish me luck in my marriage, and give me some advice on how to make it a success..
Pls, wish me luck in my marriage, and give me some advice on how to make it a success.
african GB Member May the gods of good luck and fortune favour you.
If your marriage is to pass the test of time, you will need to use more than the missionary position.
my thread here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/197200/5/atheists-do-you-ever-talk-to-god has taken a decidedly new twist.
one that has made me think it prudent to discuss a related matter.. would the world be a better place if all atheism was gone?
would it be a better place if all religion were gone?
Faith in the sun rising is an entirely different matter. (The sun doesn't rise!)
Religion is belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
If someone is motivated by their belief or faith in a diety, then they are religious.
